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I've been reading my friends and some of them have despaired that nobody's mentioned 9/11 yet, and the few that have all says more or less the same thing: "Today is not the day for partisan rancour. Today is the day we remember." I remember that we figured out who did it, and seven years ago he and his friends hid in the hills of Pakistan, and they're living there still. I remember that gas was less than two dollars a gallon. I remember we were sold a war that, among all the other reasons proposed by administration mouthpieces, "stabilizing the oil supply" was whispered now and then. I remember that four thousand soldiers, good men and women, have died in a war for which the incidents of that day were merely an excuse. I remember that there was a middle-eastern faction that didn't hate us so much then as they do now. I remember that, seven years ago, I lost nobody to the flames. I remember instead that day as the beginning of the end of my country as I had loved it. I live in a "new reality" now, one in which, citizen, you have nothing to fear if you have nothing to hide, and have nothing to be ashamed of if you're good and law-abiding, citizen. I remember living in America. Tags: shrill Current Mood: tired Current Music: Evanescence, Everybody's Fool
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From: elfs |
Date: September 11th, 2008 09:52 pm (UTC) |
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| From: (Anonymous) |
Date: September 11th, 2008 11:46 pm (UTC) |
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We should have lived in fear? I don't see why. Informed awareness, well-reasoned forethought, sure, but fear? No. Fear is counter-productive.
Terrorism has been around for a long time. Seven years ago, we became a major target for the first time, and that made us sit up and take notice... and overreact, and go after the wrong culprits, and do time-wasting, feel-good things like ban corkscrews from airline flights, rather than do something productive.
It may be that "no evil even close to its treachory has befallen us since", but I certainly don't give the current administration much credit for that. If anything, our actions in Iraq have made us less, rather than more safe.
No, we are not safer now... not by a long shot. But then, I'm much more concerned about the harmful actions of the current administration than I am over the possible harmful actions of terrorists.
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I was between jobs on 9/11 and watched TV pretty continuously the next few days (as did many others, I'm sure). My memory (could be faulty, I admit) is that Rudy, asked repeatedly if the air was safe for people to breathe, said that the people testing it said it was. The few responders at ground zero, who would speak on camera, when asked if they were worried about the air would shrug, and say that they were told it was not toxic. Granted anyone working in those conditions wants to wear the appropriate equipment for dust and smoke--those are bad enough to breathe. So given that the air seems to have toxic enough to make people sick, were the people testing the air and giving the information to Rudy mistaken, incompetent, or were authorities distorting the truth to keep people from panicking?
But you know, what, Darrel, that the air was toxic enough to make people working at ground zero sick--and whether they knew it or not--isn't as important as the fact that at least some of them are not being given the health care they need for illnesses that happened as a result. The same way the people serving in Iraq and Afghanistan are not being cared for by this administration.
I welcome documentation to the contrary. What lies are *you* swallowing whole?
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From: caprinus |
Date: September 11th, 2008 10:04 pm (UTC) |
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Did you see today's spin from the White House press conference? http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2008/09/20080910-1.html Q But Osama bin Laden is the one that -- you keep talking about his lieutenants, and, yes, they are very important, but Osama bin Laden was the mastermind of 9/11 --
MS. PERINO: No, Khalid Sheikh Mohammed was the mastermind of 9/11, and he's sitting in jail right now.
Q Well, what, in this White House's opinion -- what was the role of Osama bin Laden, then, for 9/11?
MS. PERINO: Well, obviously, as the leader of al Qaeda, he is somebody that we want to bring to justice. He was the one that asked his deputies to plot and plan and carry out attacks. And that's why we've been aggressively going after them, as well.MISSION ACCOMPLISHED!!!!WTF. Also, a choice bit in there about how Bush thinks of 9/11 from the moment he wakes up with morning wood to the moment he turns on his night-light. NEVAR FORGET.
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From: tabbifli |
Date: September 11th, 2008 10:33 pm (UTC) |
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9/11 doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me. I mean, I know it happened, I know the planes hit the towers, the Pentagon (and why doesn't anyone remember that one?), the field in Philly where the folks took it down instead of hitting the White House. I know thee things happened.. but it doesn't occur to me to think about them. Partially because I never remember the date until someone points it out to me, and partially because while it might have been the start of all this, the fallout is what occupies me right now.
No, no one has really mentioned it today. I've seen about two people say something so far. It's because we're still dealing with the results of it, along with the results of everything that led up to it.
I've seen someone mention - I think in this journal - that this election right now is less business as usual and more like a messy divorce. I'd expand that to the entirety of politics across the nation, really, and most people don't want to get involved in a messy divorce - they don't even want to see it. So they put their heads down and mind their own business, and the anniversaries pass by without notice. Well, the anniversary of this particular filing is passing by without notice, and I can't blame people. This divorce is costing too much.
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From: jenk |
Date: September 11th, 2008 10:35 pm (UTC) |
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